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nah ko!!! TGNA dah mula pencaknya.....ada bran ke si nash nak sambot???!!! kakakakakakakakakakaakaaaa.....

I agree with Tok Guru, is okay that Nasharudin Mat Isa join UMNO.

With his current position in PAS, he can get at least a Vice President in UMNO and
many government post and rewards awaiting for him.

Dr.Carl Benedict

Well said Datuk Nik. Yes, ask Hadi and Mustapha to join UMNO as well. Then PAS can move on peacefully.

Datuk Nik ia right, he no.2 should quit and join umno. The people they voted for the collation parties (PAS,DAP &PR) not just PAS. If it is just PAS alone then a lot of the voters will vote for you.

Yang sokong kenyataan TG Nik Aziz tolong click +, yang membantah click -

Hidup Tok Guru Nik Aziz!

Ini dia suara nurani manusia manusia yang baik dan amanah.

Kalau Nasha nak melebih lebih lagi, baik letak jawatan jer macam kata Tok Guru.

Kau ingat Nasa..bila Tok Guru Nik Aziz marah..bukan sajaa ahli PAS marah..satu Malaya pun boleh marah..jgn over2 sgt nasa..kalu nak sangat perpaduan no hal..be gentlemen letak jawatan MP, TP Pas dan join UMNO..aku gerenti byk jawatan UMNO boleh bagi kat mu!!!

Hadi and Nasharuddin both dream to be part of the BN government so that it is easy for them to be promoted to become federal minister, why wait till 2013, when they both can be promoted instantly to minister.

Jangan tunggu lama-lama.

Nasharudin has made a blunder. His is still naive in politics and will easily be led by UMNO in the negotiations. The sheer inability for Nasharudin to keep the talk secret is a result of his naivity and trying to have secret talks with UMNO hoping that it will easily be done without consulting others is just stupid.

PAS should expel this kind of person who has actually betrayed both PAS and the PR. PAS has other leaders who has more credibility. Nasharudin is just a stooge and an errand boy. He can't be forgiven easily.

We now know who are the ones in Pas who can betray their own people.
Any back door negotiations to power will result in total destruction.
The real traitors have been exposed before they can make a move.
Well said Tok Guru!........be strong on principles......that is the very foundation the rakyat stands beside you.

Ha I agree with Tok Guru and he must be hinting at PAS President to quit PAS too.. Haji Hadi was the one who brought this up recently in his opening speech. Tok Guru must still be smarting from the defeat of his men especially Husam during the recent party elections. Yes Haji Hadi should follow Nash too!

Yes, No2 of PAS should leave he cannot wait for another minute to sleep with UMNO. He is set to be a full
minister perhaps DPM should he we able to assemble a large no of MPs to cross over. Moo hee din may have
to vacate . Nas is a politician we should wish him luck in UMNO. The sad thing is this man is a religious leader as a Muslim myself I am totally disbelieve that he will like to join up with a corrupted party UMNO Can he change UMNO to be clean or he will be part of the corrupt empire. I can see from his twist of words and he is very aggressive to defend the UNITY government who knows he has taken RM$$$$ or a trap set up by UMNO.

PR ..adalah Pakatan Rakyat bukannya pakatan Hadi,Nasharuddin & Mustapha, mereka kena tanya rakyat dahulu sebelum buat sesuatu..sebelum dosa ahli PAS bertambah marahkan kumpulan ini lebih baik berundur secara terhormat agar tidak dikeji sepanjang zaman...Hidup TGNA..

Tujuan rundingan tu bukan apa sebab penat dok membangkang dah..untung2 perpaduan dapat la kuasa sikit.. tak tahan dugaan jangan cuba nak masuk pembangkang..

Yes, I agree with Tok Guru and he must be hinting at PAS President to quit PAS too.. Haji Hadi was the one who brought this up recently in his opening speech. Tok Guru must still be smarting from the defeat of his men especially Husam during the recent party elections. Yes Haji Hadi should follow Nash too!

PAS will eventually split. The Hadi-Nasarudin group has forever lost the trust of non-malays and has nothing to differentiate itself from the UMNO dinosaurs. Ultimately (in the next few years) this group will degenerate into UMNO's brand of racism, corruption, absolute immorality and wanton exploitation of religion for personal gain. A final fusion with UMNO is inevitable, strung together in the cobwebs of the dark ages and eternal backwardness.

MI, of course, spun a piece four months ago about the outstanding qualities and suaveness of Nasarudin - to great avail, it now seems. But Tok Guru will stand firm and send Nasarudin, the UMNO mole, back to where he came from.

Everyone who wants this country to move forward, socially, economically, with truth, justice, equality and fairness, realise that the No. 1 public enemy of Malaysia, is UMNO and its continued hegemony in just about every aspect of civil society.

Except for those who continue to lick UMNO leaders hands - incl the subservient MCA/Gerakan/MIC/PPP/MSM etc etc - UMNO/BN regime is clearly so despised.

A PM who has the lowest rating ever - even for a new national leader. BN components fraught with scandals (PKFZ, MAIKA, money politics, murder) to in-fighting, even 79% of MCA's own want them to leave the coalition. And what does One Ta- Kut do?

Live up to his name. Cabut to France, instead of facing P'ment.

l say, all these are clear ingredients for self - annihaliation.

Go ahead NAsh, Hadi, Mustafa - keep up your mengurat session with UMNO.

Nobody's gonna either remember or pity you guys when UMNO/BN falls.


That's how bad it is

Maybe PAS doesn't realise this but UMNO - by opening to unity talk - is trying to split PAS into two further factions - those who want to be like UMNO, and those who want to hold on to PAS principles. If the PAS leadership doesn't see what UMNO is doing discreetly, then you can kiss the PR coalition good bye.

I believe what we are seeing now is political psychology being used by UMNO/BN to win memberships and to cause rifts. If UMNO & PAS are sincere, they shouldn't think of having a unity talk. They're like water and oil.

I take my hat off to you, Tok Guru.
That's the way. No point of keeping these two devils ravaging the party. They are Trojan Horses of UMNO. Kick them out before they do further damage to the party, even at the risk of spliting PAS into two.

Totally agreed with Tok Nik Aziz.

Since Nasharuddin Mat Isa like to talk and work with Umno, he might as well quit from PAS and join Umno. In this way, he could continue to talk with them privately as long as he wish. Nobody care.

If the PAS' President is not happy with Tok Nik Aziz statement, he too can join Nasharuddin to join Umno.

Nasharuddin is unbecoming when he question Nik Aziz after winning the PAS number 2. He seemed to have his own agenda, scared of his own shadow ( and Nik and Anwar) and does the hanky panky work like UMNO. He should join UMNO all right.

Hadi Awang mismanage Terengganu and lost it. It seemed that his lack of leadership capability is now translated to PAS's turmoil. See how glad UMNO is.. that they have succeeded. It is strange that PAS cannot handle success.

Right, all those who are in favour of Unity Talks should quit PAS and join UMNO. We do not want more frogs to join the three Perak frogs during the next GE.

I don't think Umno will offer any position to hadi and mustapha because if they do, PR will be at peace between the 3 parties. Umno main purpose is to cause disruption within PR - the longer the better. I think the only way is to remove hadi and mustapha in next PAS election (if that is possible) or they resign on their own accord (very unlikely)

Those who think UMNO is good should join them. Don't stay in PAS! Resign!

Unfortunately, when MI breaks news as sensational as this, I can't help but to take it with a pinch of salt. I will check with other news portal first.

I guess TG Hadi & Nas has no confident that PR will be the next coming government in waiting. Thats the only logical reason they see with this so call "unity governtment" so they will get more power and position when united with the BN.

What is the unity pack for? Just wait for the next GE and have the PR government install. That if you only have the trust in the coalition and faith into it. You cant wait? After 50 yrs and some bad experience during coalition with BN before? Never learn a lesson?

Just concentrate to have a unity pack with the PR coalition and prepared to rule the country together with other PR members. Forget about BN or UMNO its history. Why so "hadap" to have this pack with them?

And now BN controled media is happily playing over and over again the issues so PAS will break up internally. No 1 & No . 2 of PAS cannot think meh?

Kelantan can survive without so much of help from BN govt and NO.1 PAS want to cooperate? Remember Terenganu last time? What happend?

Just concentrate to tighten the loosen end in PR itself instead to help the sinking ship.

Bila UMNO di saat NAZAK, tiba-tiba ada org nak selamatkan & bagi pelampung lagi? kan pelik.. UMNO is almost gone, pilihanraya di KT, Bkt Gantang, P.Pauh shows that people just hate of these suckers.

It's a big mistake, damn big mistake if PAS join this so-called unity government. Did UMNO care for PAS when they were at their prime? No.. Now, when they are down to their knees, all these crap "unity" stuffs cropped in. I strongly agree with TGNA that Nasha shld quit - go ahead & join UMNO.. PAS wld be the big loser if they continue this "harakiri" idea..

To Nasha : You betray us. You betray the poeple of Tumpat.

I just don't believe there is another idiot who still think he can make it good in UMNO.

Tok Guru have the greatest respect from all Malaysians for his wisdom and integrity.
Hadi and Nasa please resign, enrich yourself in UMNO. You are going against the Quran's teaching
by joining the corrupters and sinners!!

The voice of wisdom have spoken!
PAS spiritual leader Datuk Nik Aziz has never shifted his position in the three parties alliance, he has never doubted, that with PR two other partners PKR and DAP, PAS will rise to higher heights in the malaysian political arena... getting involved with that dodgy UMNO will see PAS get screwed the second time and the splitting of the party into two. It appears, PAS have not much of a choice but, to stay put with the Alliance....and, not be clouded with small successes in the last GE...hopefully, they they not break the trust of the non-malays placed on them!

Sometimes money$$$ can cloud the vision of a holy man in PAS like Hadi and Nasha...
Only the true Islam spirit will prevail in one like Tok Guru Nik Aziz

Saya sokong penuh kenyataan Tuan Tok Guru Nik Aziz. Biar Nasharudin masuk parti UMNO serta merta. Good riddance, hapuskan musuh dlm selimut too....

Hadi & gang mudah lupa ... do you support the Memali incident?
Ibrahim Libya will come back to haunt you!!

No need 2 have unity talk between PAS & UMNO.

Those who wants unity should UNIFY themselves with UMNO by just joining as UMNO member instead !

Nasha ought to be shamed outrightly and if those who looked closely at the 3 way fight between Nasha-Husam-Mat Sabu ought to know very well that the votes of Husam+Mat Sabu far outweight Nasha.

They voted Nasha so as not to shamed him.

But guessed what? Nasha openly rebuked Nik Aziz whom is the Spiritual Leader of PAS saying that his view is personal to himself !

Kerana nak berbincang dengan UMNO, parti sendiri dilupakan. Kenapa beria-ia. Apa yang depa bagi kat kamu? Ikutlah nasihat Tok Guru yang banyak pengalaman ini.

Do you think UMNO is sincere to talk??? come on wake UP Nasharuddin you just being use by UMNO as tool to make controversy among PR. I dare u will regret if you joint UNMO.

It take 50 years for the Chinese to trust PAS, is this what the Chinese expected PAS to do. The Chinese even reject their own race party (MCA) to support PAS. Are these Chinese been taken for a ride? With this turn of event, your guess is as good as mine..

Saya menggesa timbalan presidennya Nasharudin Mat Isa meninggalkan parti itu dan mengosongkan kerusi parlimen Bachok jika masih ingin kerajaan perpaduan kalau tidak Saya akan menghentikan segala skngn daripada segi moral,tenaga dan wang ringgit kepada Pas.Saya betul2 menyokong kenyataan Nik Aziz;isu kerajaan perpaduan bukannya datang daripada PAS tetapi datang daripada "boneka Umno" dalam Pas.Mereka telah menjalankan agenda Umno dari dalam Pas.Kalau benar Nasharuddin nak setuju (dengan kerajaan perpaduan) lebih baik dia masuk Umno, letak jawatan timbalan (presiden PAS) dan di Bachok.

I agree with Tuan Guru Nik Abdul Aziz 200%, we don't need umno stooge. Umno is like a drowning man, desperate, throw them anything, they will grab.

Let's Nasha and his group join Umno.....the rakyat hve no regrets...

Pemimpin UMNO adalah terdiri dari mereka yang sangat licik dan pembelit. Mereka berperangai seperti Yahudi dan akan memanipulasikan setiap keaadaan untuk memperkukuhkan kuasa mereka. Mereka akan sanggup menggadaikan Islam jika itu akan dapat mencapai matlamat mereka.

Mereka tidak pernah ikhlas dalam apa pun usaha untuk kepentingan rakyat apatah lagi dalam perkongsian kuasa. Berunding atau berdamai dengan mereka hanya akan merosakkan PAS dan PR seluruhnya.

Ramai dikalangan mereka adalah munafik dan tidak pernah bercita-cita untuk menegakkan Islam. Mereka hanya mempergunkan Islam untuk mengabui mata rakyat Islam negara ini setelah PAS begitu serius untuk menegakkan Islam di negara ini. Islam bagi mereka adalah kebutulan dan sampingan bukan matlamat.

Matlamat mereka adalah Melayu dan perjuangan mereka adalah nasionalis. Us. Nasaruddin boleh pergi bersama UMNO jika beriya sangat dengan Melayu nya. Tapi ingat apakah nasib yang diterima Us. Nakhie, Datok Asri Muda dan ramai pemimpin PAS yang lain yang telah menyertai mereka atas nama Melayu itu.

Kami ahli dan penyokong PAS tetap bersama Tok Guru Nik Aziz dan kami akan mempertahankan Tok Guru dan walau dengan darah kami sekalipun.

Us Nasarruddin mesti ingat jika berlaku perpecahan dalam PAS kerana UG yang karut ini maka beliau lah yang bertanggung jawab sepenuhnya.

Biar dia seorang pergi berbincang dengan UMNO untuk bersama dengan UMNO. Us Nasaruddin dipilih sebagai Timbalan bukan bermakna lampu hijau kepada kerajaan UG. PAS akan dilunyaikan oleh UMNO jika PAS bersama dengan mereka.

Didalam PR ada tolak ansur dan setiap Parti saling bergantung antara satu sama lain. Tetapi bersama dengan UMNO mereka akan senantiasa mahu mereka dominan dan PAS tunduk dn patuh kepada mereka.

Slowly but surely,
the drama unfolding in front of our eyes.
Pas and Umno - unity talks leading towards unity government.

Hadi Awang first proposed to Pah Lah after March 8 general election.
Then the media picked it up and drum up the unity talks.
Najib responded and says he is open for more discussion.

Already discussion was on the way,
Then the expose - the media leaks.
Nik Aziz was furiously mad - this is understandable.
Umno had dealt falsely with this Tok Guru in the past...
Umno was the evil party, clearly untrustworthy by Tok Guru's estimate.

Hadi should know better,
Himself was played out many times by Umno in Terengganu.

Hadi got his deputy to press further for unity talks,
These two - outside Pas - went on their own,
They boldly used Pas as the platform to discuss and negotiate -
they used religion and race as a front - something else was cooking.

Ahhh, Mustafa Pas secretary general says that for unity talks - PKR and DAP must be included.
Another Ahhhh, Muhkriz says no to the larger invitations.

Nik Aziz did right -
Pas on wrong footing - No. 1 and 2 - Pas president and deputy - inside dealing with Umno.

Have they kissed Tok Guru with a kiss of betrayal?
Have they betrayed the public, knowingly Umno is public no. 1 enemy?

Usually, in any party - there is only one traitor.
In PR, two traitors - ????

Muhkriz is spilling the beans!!!!
Thank you Muhkriz, you have shown us who are the traitors.

Pas will deal with them.
But first, handle the deputy.
Nasha - if you want to talk unity with Muhkriz, just crossover to Umno.

This two are dreaming how can UMNO allow them to be Federal Ministers .Najis will have to throw out their
own ministers just for this Two . UMNO only want to split PAS and PR This NAS is after the RM$$$$ and also dreaming for Minister positions. This religious leaders just want to be part of the corrupt empire

We miss the point. This is where I again abhore MI style of reporting. Why can't MI do a bit of diligence and find out the actual views of PAS members. Those PAS members who are liberals need not necessarily reflect the view of PAS members. The liberals like Khalid and Husam have been outrightly rejected. In fact so does Nik Aziz's faction. Now we need to realise what is happening?

I think in essence the agenda of malaysia malaysia espoused by PR and alternative media may have been pushed too far right, hard and fast. Muslims are questioning that with PAS in PR, PAS will have its hands tied up by the PR. They see that the voice of the islam as championed by PAS all the while will be suppressed. Already a number of issues cannot be raised as it affects the interests of the PR coalition. With PAS being stifled, UMNO would no longer need to play the one up game as had happened in the past. If both PAS and UMNO are playing the malaysia malaysia game, who is then to champion the islamic cause? This is a concern of muslims.

Now to top it off, any move against the malaysia malaysia agenda is deemed as "racist" "backward" "stupid" etc. These vitriolic rhetorics have put the muslims under sieged. Any talk between PAS and UMNO based on islamic concerns are condemned as outright betrayal and racists. These again pushed the malays/ muslims into the corner.

The muslims is also realising that the fight for malaysia malaysia is shallow. The rhethorics on malaysian malaysia demands non discriminatory practice by all. In essence these are not objectionable but it requires a lot of give and take by everybody. But when they see that the non-malays are not willing to give up the chinese or tamil schools in order to preserve their culture despite knowing full well that if the kids are separated from young it would be impossible to have a non racially inclined malaysians, the muslims see that the call for non-discriminatory practices seem shallow. The muslims will also realise that the non-malay businesses will in all probability object to a non discriminatory practices in their business dealings and severely object to the dismantling of their clan and racially based business network. The muslims will realise that certain businesses will only be inked between those of similar language, background and finally race. Worse, they will realise that to those who advocate malaysian malaysia agenda, they will never consider those who support these current race based school policies and trade practices as racists. Where is the consistency? Isn't then the Malaysian malaysia just a rhetoric?

The more the push is made by the advocates of malaysian malaysia, the more the muslims feel that they are under seiged. Everybody must take a step back including MI. We should not play too extreme politics in pursuing our agenda. We should meet in the midlle. Otherwise our country will irrevocably be split and in perpetual uncertainty.

Definitely UMNO will keep on talking about this. Manek Urai by-election is coming soon. To PAS leaders, please watch out. Better don't give any statement if it is personal view. You know already how the medias will 'play around' with your statements. Those who can read alternative views maybe OK but what about others who depend on mass media? Think!!!

If you run a survey, you will know that 10/10 who voted for PAS are anti-unity with UMNO.

Kick those who want to "unite" with corrupted UMNO out.
PAS will gain even more voting supporters.

I cannot be more proud of Nik Aziz stand on unity talk with UMNO. The reason the rakyat do not trust politicians is because they just can't be trusted. Tok guru knows that and that is why he is firm on his word with the PR alliance.

It seems like the Hadi faction in PAS is disguised as moderate but inside they are really like UMNO and that will be too bad. You just can't fool the rakyat, they are a lot smarter now and can decipher what is going on by not having to rely on what is said. We are interested in a just government and that is why PAS,DAP,and PKR were voted in and we'll not hesitate to vote PAS out in a heartbeat if this nonsense about unity crap did not stop.

BN is suppose to be a unity government with MCA and MCI and buch of others but there is unity as long as everyone ok every damn thing UMNO wants and this will apply to PAS as well.

A very rare traits for a politician. I am no fan of politicians or political parties but in recent time there are a hand full of politicians that is amired and respected and one is Tok Guru/ Datuk Nik Aziz Nik Mat and the other is Datuk Zaid Ibrahim. I find his view straight forward and his commitment to PR refreshing (not that am a big fan of PR). You stand by your partners and no "politician double talk" - that is rare in today politician.

A great spanking from Tok guru for this UMNO ball-lickers!!

Demokrasi konon? Inilah demokrasi terpimpin dalam PAS.
Walaupun sama parti kenapa tak boleh ada 'disagreement'?
Dalam ASWJ pun ada 4 imam terbesar atau mazhab..
So? Awat bangang sangat?