By Asrul Hadi Abdullah Sani
SHAH ALAM, Aug 30 — For the residents of the middle class Taman Ixora neighbourhood in Section 23 here, the cow-head protest after Friday prayers underlined their anger and frustration against a government unwilling to heed their views.
While they have mixed feelings about brandishing a cow-head during the protest, they are adamant in not wanting the Section 19 Sri Mahamariamman Temple relocated to their predominantly Malay-Muslim neighbourhood, more so near the Surau Al-Jannah.
The faded graffiti on the zinc fence surrounding the disputed site reflected their feelings.
“We object to this temple”, “Pakatan Rakyat cannot be trusted” and “Rodziah babi” were written on the fence. Rodziah Ismail is the Batu Tiga state assemblywoman, which covers the area, and an executive councillor in the Pakatan Rakyat (PR) government.
On Friday, they went a step further to show that they were at the end of their tether by holding a noisy demonstration outside the Selangor state secretariat, dragging a severed cow-head which they stomped and spat on. The act is offensive to Hindus, who regard cows as sacred.
Although riot police stood by at the state secretariat, they are in full force at the neighbourhood multi-purpose hall beside the proposed temple site, which is now a lush green field.
Shah Alam OCPD ACP Noor Azam Jamaludin said they had been stationed there before the protest and will remain until Sept 3.
On a visit to the neighbourhood, the Malay residents expressed anger and felt it was unsuitable for the temple to be built in a predominantly Muslim community.
They also argued the location was not strategic because there is only one major exit from the neighbourhood to the main highway and the temple would likely create congestion in the area.
Others also felt that they have been cheated and abandoned by their Muslim PR leaders.
“I attended yesterday’s demonstration because this is my neighbourhood and I must show support. That is what I want. I hung this Umno flag, but I voted one for Khalid Samad and Rodziah. I voted for PKR but I felt cheated. I have this Umno flag to show my anger,” Sukhani Mohd Jamil stressed, venting his anger at the state lawmakers.
Khalid Samad is the Shah Alam MP, which encompasses this neighbourhood in the predominantly Malay constituency.
The 30 year old father explained that neighbourhood had objected when they learned the temple was planned to built near their homes but they did not receive any response.
Sukhani felt cheated when he learned that the state government had not consulted the residents and approved the building of the temple.
“I’ve never felt this spirit. This is not about race hatred. Take whatever land but not near our housing areas. I am really disappointed,” he said.
The Section 23 action committee against the temple construction had sent a protest memorandum to Rodziah explaining that the temple was just 160 metres from the houses, 50 metres from a playground and 150 metres from Surau Al-Jannah. They demanded a public hearing but the Batu Tiga state assemblyman said it was unnecessary as the area was industrial land.
There was also fear in some of the residents as they are afraid that this issue might explode into a racial backlash.
“Of course, nobody wants the temple. It is too near to the playground. This has become an issue. I am scared that this will lead to fighting. They are too sensitive on this issue. Can you ask Rodziah why she wants to build it there?” Mainora Muir Hassan explained.
The mother of four stressed that the temple was not in the plans when they bought the house and questioned if the state government can do this.
“If there is not any temple, then we won’t buy. The price of our houses will also fall. Khalid wants tolerance but how can there be tolerance when it is near to the surau?” she added.
Pakatan Rakyat politicians claimed that most of the protesters were not from Section 23 and the demonstration was orchestrated by Umno.
However, local residents refuted this claim and said it was unfair because they are fighting for their neighbourhood and not for any political party.
“It is not a question of Umno or not, we are all Muslims. I am disappointed that a Muslim leader has neglected the Muslim community. Our religion has been sidetracked,” Latiff Roslan said.
The businessman was confused why the state government had decided to build the temple near their homes when there was no objection to build the temple in Section 22 as originally planned.
“Playground is for our children, children won’t go there to play and parents won’t allow them to play. Why is this temple made into an issue? People have objected to this temple so the government should stop the project.
“I read in the papers, that they want to move the temple by 300 metres. There is no land for the temple to be relocated by 300 metres. They want to put in the temple in the factory? So they are trying to lie to us and we cannot accept it,” he said.
The residents feel that they are being neglected by their leaders and are fed-up with Khalid’s call for religious tolerance.
“Khalid Samad is a liar, he likes to tell lies. He is scared to face the people. If the temple can be relocated by 300 metres, why not five kilometres? They asked us to tolerant. We can be tolerant but they must find a suitable location,” Azman Abdul Majid said.
The Telekom Malaysia employee added that politicians are abandoning religion for votes.
There were mixed emotions on the severed cow-head being used in the demonstration but they agree that the protestors just wanted to show their anger.
The residents are planning to seek a court injunction if the state government continues its plans to build the temple there.

written by Raj, August 30, 2009
written by Arul Inthirarajah, August 30, 2009
written by wayan, August 30, 2009
written by sadmalaysian, August 30, 2009
It is a sad day when "Malaysians" regard each other as "lepers". Maybe housing projects of the future
could be built with huge signs warning of the "dangers" of the races residing there and their religious practices.
A really great way to promote racial tolerance and 1Malaysia with perfect timing for Merdeka Day celebrations tomorrow.
written by No Value, August 30, 2009
written by terence, August 30, 2009
2. Seek a court injuction? YES THIS IS WHAT U MUST DO! not parade a cows head....sigh.
Move the temple la.....concede. The state govt has tried but this is a losing battle. Dont forget that the PAS MP put his arse on the line for you but when faced with religious intolerance by majority of the people...what else is there. Ask state to subside some cheap land in a factory area if possible. Build a bigger temple there, ample parking and your own people will respect you and more people will come there.
We ALL conveniently ignore our fellow citizen rights whenever it suits us anyway.
1Malaysia as long as its at least 5km away pls thank u.
written by Urangsabah, August 30, 2009
Happy 52nd Merdeka........Let continue the Kg Baru Cina, Kampung Baru Malayu, Kampung Barui India. School should also be segregated...........
Utusan & UMNO pks continue your polarisation it good for Malaysia.
written by swipenter, August 30, 2009
However in every housing estate land is always allocated for mosques and suraus to be built and why is this so if the Constitution guarantees freedom of worship and religion? Why this official blatant discrimination? Can anyone come up with an answer to this double standard?
The adherents of other religions have kept quiet all these years but that doesnt mean they are happy with this kind of treatment. As a consequence you find all sorts of illegal temples and shoplot churches springing up everywhere bcos they are denied a proper piece of land to build their house of worship. Now do we find illegal mosques and suraus springing up everywhere? Section 23 muslims feel a sense of betrayal by the Selangor state govt on this matter and may I ask them what do they think that not allocating land by the govt to the non muslims to build their house of worship a fair thing or a betrayal too?
In the pre 1970s you can see houses of worship of different religions coexisting without this kind of religious polarisation manifesting and threatening bloodshed and committing sacreligious acts. It is not that PR is insensitive to the Section 23 muslims as this problem of lack of land to build temples and churches is created by Umno for the last 40 years. Now are we going to object if the PR state govt decides to allocate land for the purpose of building churches and temples along with mosques and suraus in mixed housing estates?
written by Malaysian Too, August 30, 2009
Many Muslims brother didn't realise this thing. Unlike Muslims who have mosque and suraus every few metres apart, built in part, most likely with Government funding, of which NON-Muslims contributed in forms of taxes, most NON-Muslims have to make do with whatever temples or churches existed long time ago. If there is any new building, most likely, it is a RELOCATION disguised as NEW BUILDING. For the NON-Muslims, you have to give up ONE in order to be allowed another ONE at another AREA, be it schools or temples or in most instances, they would just operate from houses, shoplots or industrial lots. Are NON-Muslims to be relegated to praying clandestinely???
And what is so wrong about having a temple nearby? Temple will contributes to economic activities and people who goes to temple (or churches or mosque) are most likely to be God fearing bunch, meaningm, decent people, you can't even be friend with DECENT, God-fearing people??
Granted, there might be congestions, but I don't think it will be a daily congestion. At most, probably weekly if not monthly. You can't give an inch of understanding for that? I used to remember we kids enjoyed Hindus procession, Wesak day procession etc. Even my staff used to enjoy watching Chinese FUNERAL procession!!! As for us the NON-Muslims, we even enjoyed bazaar Ramadhan and think for a second, the bazaar will be operating for one month, everday and it causes congestions and filths (to a certain extent) and many are operating in housing estates or major areas where NON-Muslims easily equalled Muslims in numbers, yet, they bear with it and in fact, joined in the festivities and enjoy whatever foods delight to be discovered. As long as there are clean-ups afterwards, I think somebody has to give in, as long as it is not overtly excessive.
written by Ivan lkc, August 30, 2009
written by khhor, August 30, 2009
written by Molineux, August 30, 2009
When their Muslim brothers are in a minority and get oppressed, how on earth are they going to lend support?
If you are so selfish, other Muslims in a minority situation will suffer.
Why so insecure? Is it not possible to walk past a Church or a Temple while staying truly Muslim?
written by Secular Malaysian, August 30, 2009
Practically all religions teach love, respect for other religions,
tolerance for followers of other religions : all good and noble stuff.
In truth, the behaviour of many followers of MANY organized religions betray their intolerance,
close-mindedness and self-centredness. What we end up with is strife and conflict.
As an observer, I sometimes think that we have much more to fear from man than God.
Seems like God is about love, but man has gone along other paths altogether, while professing
their religious fervour. Stange as it may seem, when there is less fervour, sometimes it is actually more peaceful..... how ironic!
written by wkc, August 30, 2009
written by rocky, August 30, 2009
now if there is 40% hindus there whereby the Indians consist 9% of Malaysian, do they not deserve a temple which is actually being moved from section 19 cos tin 19 the majority muslims in 90%. Looks like UMNO and Utusan have brainwashed section of Malaysians to be so intolerant. if we go this way, there should be no mosques and churches in Peninsular malaysia. Sabah and Sarawak is a different issue cos the locals are majority and not malays.
what is next? to demolish all the temples and churches in Peninsular cos majority is Malays? utusan may have an answer.
it is sick we have come to this but UMNO and Utusan reap what they sowed
written by Observer, August 30, 2009
written by Johan Abdullah, August 30, 2009
written by BuzukNajis, August 30, 2009
Where is the respect for religious freedom ?!!!!
Are we allow to reject a mosque in non-malay majority area ?!!!
written by Right2Choose, August 30, 2009
written by frags, August 30, 2009
What has happened to Shah Alam? It is now a rogue town. Exactly where in peninsular Malaysia is it not a Muslim majority? We all know that place of worship of other religions do not coexist in Muslim majority areas? Grow up lah!
written by Ong, August 30, 2009
written by Jimini, August 30, 2009
written by than, August 30, 2009
written by CW Wong, August 30, 2009
First of all, the residents need to be consulted before it goes ahead in their neighbourhood. Our church in Subang Jaya got a development order, it lapsed. Then we reapplied and we had to go through due process to overcome residents' objections. We started engaging them through a series of meeting. It ended up with agreement from all. We are morally bound therefore to honour their consent and ensure that we keep to our agreements. We scaled down the project, plant more trees, etc. It is a case of putting ourselves in the residents' shoes. Most of us go to church once a week. These neighbours live next to our church ALL the time. Is it too much to ask?
Secondly, resolve the objection of "not suitable because it is a Muslim majority area". We know that by law, non-Muslims have no choice but to have megawatts of muezzin call blasted into our bones when early Muslims used no amplifier (pardon the tone, but there is a point here). Worst of all, many of them are in non-Muslim areas - the reverse of Sek 23. If we were to request for the volume to be turned down - ISA. So the question of switching off the amps and go back to original early day Islam is off as well, or well - ISA. If we were to ask for the Masjid/Surau to be built somewhere else, all hell will break loose. It is good having a town hall meeting and tell this to our Muslim countrymen. God created this good earth for all of us. Many religions came before Islam. Islam was a late edition to the list of religions to choose from. Islam had it tough - being the minority and harassed. Where is the spirit of Islam? Lost in time? Selective amnesia - just remember what you want to remember? The Muslims need to look at themselves and answer this questions. You may be powerful (by backing of law) and feel superior (by many decades of Ketuanan Melayu opiate) but this is a big world. As the news of the Cow's Head Rally got published around the world, we are undoing a lot of goodwill built around the world. Human feelings play a part in all decisions from the hallowed halls of United Nations to the face-to-face business negotiation. Our behaviour is offending the world at large.
So, do look at whether there is another better site. Not because of the "Muslim majority area" argument but in case there is a better place. Remember, Hinduism does not have the backing of the law in this area. Moreover, the noise level for Hindu temples is higher than churches and mosques. I should know, my school was next to a temple, years ago.
So let logic and good sense prevail. Give and take must take centrestage. All round, the Cow's Head saga has been attacked by even Muslims. So let's move on.
written by Jezza, August 30, 2009
1) Why is it "unsuitable" for the temple to be built in a Muslim predominant area?
Are the people afraid that Muslims in that area might in any case be so easily swayed into converting to being a Hindu? I can't think of any logical reason.
2) Why is it an issue for an Indian temple to be built near a mosque?
Uhm, because Muslims might so easily mistaken the temple for a mosque? Again, I can't think of a logical reason.
3) Even more preposterous, the explanation that it shouldn't be near the playground, because then the children can't go to the playground to play anymore. And the parents won't allow. Why?
Uhm.... because the Indians who go to that temple are dangerous? Is the resident suggesting that?
Where I live, it is a predominantly Indian area. But there's a mosque 300 metres from my house. It never seemed to be an issue, and no one ever complained, even though personally, I sometimes wished I wasn't woken up 5 plus every morning.
written by Penangite, August 30, 2009
What I can see is the level of tolerance among Rakyat seriously degraded due to the implementation of "divides & rules" and racism policy by UMNO-BN in these 52 years, especially in the so-called Malay States like Selangor.
UMNO-BN will grab this golden opportunity of playing racial card to further divide the Rakyat and toppling the PR government. Rakyat with low level of tolerance and racist mind will become the "king maker".
written by James Loh, August 30, 2009
written by MalaysianSpaceCadet, August 30, 2009
Chinese and Indian, Christian, Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist personal and business taxes go towards paying for new mosques and suraus, for the salaries of the moral police and shariah courts and many other modern and expensive trappings of the Muslims.
Yup. That's quite painful to remember.
written by 2525, August 30, 2009
I laughed at this statement. It is precisely UmmNo mentality. How do you not be racist when you slaughter a cow scared to Hindus and displayed it like that. Clearly there's something wrong with their head. Who planted the idea that if someone build a temple near a mosque, it's automatically a danger to your shaky faith? Please do not entertain their call for this or else their mind will be further poisoned by such illogical thinking. In the east Malaysia, I dare say I was pleasantly surprised to see a church and a mosque built side by side and lived in harmony which our brothers and sisters in the west should be taking example of NOT being easily manipulated by the extremist.
written by max, August 30, 2009
written by hafeez, August 30, 2009
written by Johannes, August 30, 2009
written by Independent observer, August 30, 2009
" Children cannot play in the playground nearby"
" Cannot pray because it is too noisy"
These are the worst excuses I have ever heard. There is a huge difference between "cannot" and "refuse to". Do these people think only muslims face this situation?
" Too near the surau"
So now, we know not only must it be miles away, but the offending structure (Ie Mazu statue in Kudat) cannot be higher or bigger. Better still somewhere beneath the waves.
" We can be tolerant if it is 5Km away"
What a oxymoronic statement. What is there to tolerate then? We will tolerate anybody provided they cannot be seen, heard or even be said to exist - is that it?
I don't think most muslims will ever understand what it means to live in a multicultural setting. Neither will they understand the word "fair" or "tolerance". Don't think it exists in the dictionary. It has always been and will always be about them, the race, the religion and what they want, that's it. Other people, get lost or at least go 5 km away.
written by miss sunshine, August 30, 2009
Anyway, percentages should have no place here. It brings things down to the level of 'the strongest' or 'the loudest' winning. Actually, I can't see any valid argument that doesn't apply to any place of worship. All cause parking problems and traffic conjestion from time to time. All have unfamiliar or unwanted noises from time to time. So just accept it in the spirit of getting along.
Incidentally the mosque being built in Jln Tg Kelana Klang, is a newer, bigger version of the one that was there since the 70's which was a newer, bigger version of the one that was there before that.
On the subject of the poor cow - that was just disgusting. Uncalled for and provocative.
written by spagde, August 30, 2009
On the same token, can the non-muslins object if the building of mosques in their area if the populations of muslins is small?
Why double standard.
written by kick my foot, August 30, 2009
What 1 malaysia is this??...my foot!
written by NoBN, August 30, 2009
written by former BN supporter, August 30, 2009
written by yearofsnake, August 30, 2009
written by Pao, August 30, 2009
Let us try to forge ahead and put our different cultures and ethnicity into a big melting pot to bond as One Malaysia and not play into the hands of the politicians and their controlled news media. Let us take charge and bring in the government we want to bring about this change.
written by Madame Malaysia, August 30, 2009
I, too live 500 m from the mosque. I have accepted the 5 daily call of prayers as something beautiful, that is to remember and bring GOD close to your heart. To practice kindness and love.
written by tomzee, August 30, 2009
written by concerned 999, August 30, 2009
written by zainal, August 30, 2009
Islam mengajar kita bertolenransi. Islam juga mengajar umat nya utk menghormati hak2 ugama lain...sebab itu semasa Kerajaan Islam kuat dan berkuasa di zaman dahulu mereka tidak merobohkan kuil2...malah arak juga boleh dijual...ini semua utk dinikmati utk penduduk2 bukan islam....
Yg penting nya semua pihak mesti menghormati satu sama lain...bermuafakat...saya cadangkan semua pihak i.e. penduduk, wakil kuil, kerajaan tempatan duduk dan berbincang...luahkan segala kemusykilan yg mengganggu fikiran penduduk dan cari jln penyelesaian...insya'allah boleh diselesaikan..
Itu baru dinamakan 1Malaysia...semua bangsa bersepekat mencari penyelesaian dlm segala masaalah...kita org melayu...kalau kita ingin menjadi 'tuan' di negara iai, kita mesti tunjukan kita bangsa yg boleh memimpin dgn pintar & adil...usung kepala lembu menunjukan kita bangsa yg gila !!!
Lupakan pengaruh politik...naikkan bangsa melayu & ugama islam ke taraf yg lebih tinggi di negara ini...dengan cara bertolenransi....
written by paul andrews, August 30, 2009
written by Vendetta, August 30, 2009
written by lucia, August 30, 2009
what is wrong with a temple near a surau? in penang, on the street of harmony we have a mosque, an indian temple, a chinese temple and a christian church all near to one another within walking distance. the church that i goes to is opposite a surau. we hear the azan call 5 times a day - nothing wrong with, we catholics don't mind. the surau will hear our church bell once a week (only a few seconds) - nothing wrong with that, the surau people don't mind.
if we really want to show the world we are living in religious and racial harmony, why do people want to object the building of places of worship near each other or in a temple in a muslim majority area (or vice versa)?
all these talk of malaysia as a country with different races living in harmony is real crap then! only superficial!
written by gorshan, August 30, 2009
its good to know we may have reprieve likes these Shah Alam residents. now who in authority do i see to relocated this mosque to a muslim majority area?
written by Kamal, August 30, 2009
It is not that Malays cannot voice their objection, but you have to ask, is that a reasonable objection? What is wrong with with having a temple or a church in the neighborhood or next to a Surau? Malaysian neighborhoods are generally mixed ethnic and religion. Many non-Muslims lived close to mosque and suraus but do not complain. And I assume they do not complain because they appreciate the need for their Muslims brothers to perform their religious obligations.
For a long time Muslim Malaysians did not have problems with living close to other house of worships. I remember walking around one of the earliest flats in KL (opposite GH) and if you go there, there is a surau/mosque just a few meters away from a Budhist temple. It must have been side by side for many many years. And you have Chinese temples next or within the vicinity of Hindu temples. And if you go to Penang, everyone is so close to everyone! In Melaka, the grave of one of the 5 warriors in Hang Tuah's legend is next to a Chinese temple.
If the people in section 23 want to protests against a Hindu temple in their neighborhood because it is a Hindu temple, than I am absolutely ashame that there is such blatant bigotry in 21st century Malaysia. Regardless of whether this is UMNO or Utusan or what have you, the point is how did we come to de-humanize each other so effectively? this is not good.
I am a Muslim, and I know my religion does not promote bigotry or intolerance. Other peoples religion is their perrogative. Even if someone comes up to me and attempts to proselytize, I politely listen and tell them firmly but with a smile that I am a Muslim. And that I welcome the conversation because whatever it is, if it is well spoken I learn something about that person and the religion they enspoused. It teaches me the beauty of diversity and the beauty of conversation. Does it effect my believes in Islam? Not the slightest. And why not? Because in my heart this is my conviction. And so the person attempting to proselytize in no way has offended me, instead he has only broaden my appreciation of diversity and given me an opportunity to delve deeper into the faith I profess. And I hope we understand that about religion-it isn't something somebody can impose upon us, it has to be something we come to profess on our own. Professing our faith is as pure and as close to freedom as we can ever get. Everything else may have boundaries and conditions, but choosing one's faith (or choosing not to have a faith) is not contigent on anything else. It's just up to you.
So if religion is a personal commitment, how does the presence of an different religion effect your faith or is thought of as a threat? It cannot be a threat. In fact in is an opportunity to practice respect for fellow humans and the freedom of choice. And the Non-Muslims in Malaysia have been an exemplary of the highest order in this regard. Are Malaysian Muslims going to instead show that they are intolerant that they cannot even take the presence of a symbol of different religion in their midst? Have they replace that faculty of reason and rationality that Islam has for so long amplified and replaced it in their hearts with close-minded bigotry?
As a Muslim, I am saddened that those interviewed did not feel that there was anything wrong with what they were saying. For them it made sense. It does in a warped way. But it is not a common way the world operates today. Nor has it been a common way of thinking in Malaysia, from the time of the birth of Malaya on the 31st of August 1957 or of Malaysia on the 16th sept 1963.
Lets move beyond the blame game and realize this incident has allowed us a glimpsed into the depth of polarity and that we need to take a step back and realize that a lot needs to be done to undo the decades of bigot politics.
Ong,
you are kidding right?
written by buana kirana, August 30, 2009
This shows UMNO Malays are fanatics.
written by Alex, August 30, 2009
written by Abdul Said, August 30, 2009
written by Ron CK Sim, August 30, 2009
written by SL, August 30, 2009
written by miss sunshine, August 30, 2009
Anyway, percentages should have no place here. It brings things down to the level of 'the strongest' or 'the loudest' winning. Actually, I can't see any valid argument that doesn't apply to any place of worship. All cause parking problems and traffic conjestion from time to time. All have unfamiliar or unwanted noises from time to time. So just accept it in the spirit of getting along.
Incidentally the mosque being built in Jln Tg Kelana Klang, is a newer, bigger version of the one that was there since the 70's which was a newer, bigger version of the one that was there before that.
On the subject of the poor cow - that was just disgusting. Uncalled for and provocative.
written by rizalhanafi, August 30, 2009
What the people are implying is that they prefer segregation, by that argument alone i perceived them to be racist not religious. These are kampung folks who used to live in their isolated communities but being forced to move to the cities for economic purposes. They are bringing their kampungs bubble (tempurung) with them.
I was born in a city (JB), my neighbours are chinese and indians when i was young. I never had any bad thoughts about them . They are people just like my family. Their kids are my playmates. Their place of worship are just across the road from a surau. No, there was never any untoward incident. The fact that they observe their religion goes to show that they are good people. Near my grandma's house is a hindu temple, at dusk when the good moslems congregate at the kampung mosque, the temple caretaker would sound their bell.. their call to prayer. It is not about tolerance it is about coexistence. We share the same aspiration and hope for a better future although our religious believe is different.
Now i live and work in a different state (terengganu) where the majority are malays. Most of my friends here never had a friend or neighbour of a different race in their development years. They are the kampung folks. So often have i heard the comments that from them who think that the idea of sharing same living space with another race is unbearable. I honestly think that they are being prejudice to the hilt. I for one that for the better part of my life grew up living with the other race and religion find the experience enriching. Nor do in the course of being with them (my none malay/moslem friends) have i lost my religion. I hope that kampung folks who move to the cities leave their kampung parochialism back home.
I pray that good sense would prevail. Please dont let our unfounded prejudice cloud our judgement. Racial/religious hatred is an end game. There is no happy ending. For us moslem please dont let our nafsu amarah spoil our Ramadan.
written by amoker, August 30, 2009
written by JaguhKampung, August 30, 2009
Government has to do something on this. Tolerance is two ways. If you expect others to tolerate you, you must also tolerate others.
UMNO, you've succeeded in polarizing the country. Happy Merdeka Day!
written by peter chew, August 31, 2009
written by AgeeToDisagree, August 31, 2009
Perhaps some of our more liberal minded Malay leaders could give leeway and respite for non-Muslim ears in non-Muslim majority areas and late wakers in the mornings nationwide as well? Though this idea would not likely not appeal to the ultra types, our more progressive Muslim demographic would recognize that this to be a very much appreciated and deeply considerate gesture overall that any non-Muslim voter would love to hear about.
Let the best among our communities approach this topic, with care and sensitivity, no one else will do. Recall the situation in Penang before Koh Tsu Koon came into office? That is a good place to start with any application carefully and respectfully weighed.
written by mk lee, August 31, 2009
Judge this:
I just came back from visiting my sister in Klang, and was surprised to see that a new surau had been opened 50 metres from her house. The house directly opposite(20m) or on the side of the surau are the houses occupied by non-muslim. The residential area is considered a majority Indian/Chinese area.
But there is a Hindu temple 200m away and a Chinese temple is just 100m away from the Hindu temple.
If my sister and her Indian/Malay neigbours and others who face same the conditions can live with it peacefully, why not you all ?
Confucius said: "Do not do the things that you yourself don't like to others."
Try the "middle way in your thinking and action" ....tolerate la...
written by UMNO is sick, August 31, 2009
UMNO is playing a dangerous game by utilizing religion as a tools to trigger another Racial riot to continue their to cling on to Power.
One Malaysia - all are gimmick to fool and deceive.
People di tinggalkan , Performance nanti dulu
Kerismuddin is so damn quite means he supported such action in silence.
In Sabah, Chinese Pagoda (MAZU) is not allow to built as claim it is too close to Mosque also.
written by Ellese, August 31, 2009
We have pushed the envelop too far but never ready for this.
There are certain things in life which are never logical. Thats why its always difficult to build a mosque in the western countries like England, france or italy. People have sensitivitities due to their upbringing. Thats why we could never see a big mosque besides the vatican church nor a church besides the Kaabah.
Its how we handle this issue. Most of the time we have gone overboard because we argue based on what we feel. For example, as a result of the comments above, you have again provoked the issue of azan which is also sensitive. The consequence thereof is counterproductive and will lead to a different explosive issue.
And the more it drags the worse it becomes.
I wrote before that the way the Malaysian malaysia agenda is pushed will likely push the right to be more vocal. We are sadly seeing this. And thus i asked for both these malaysian malaysia and malay agenda to take a step back for the good of our country.
If you care to listen, the first thing that we need to do is simple. Dont condemen and demean others. We need to be sensitive to others. The concept of full freedom of expression cannot apply. Most of the comments here are insensitive. Calling others racists zealots stupid etc. Eg we call police various names and crooks to respect them? Practice holding back a bit. Practice respect and civility. And with emotions set aside only then we seek out solution. In doing so never drag other issues like azan etc.
If we dont, as I write before, our country will be irrevocably be split.
written by Edward C, August 31, 2009
I do not think an Indian Temple built there will make too much difference to the prices of the houses.
I long for the days, of the 60's when I live in Kluang, Johor. We co-existed extremely well with all Kaum Kaum. My grandfather's house was built next to Kampong Melayu. I am chinese, I played sepak takaraw with my neighbours in th evening, we attended their wedding kenduris, they attended my birth day parties, kids go fishing at the river constantly. We were friends and we knew how to ensure everyone have their space.
Whatever happened to thoses days? We were taught by our teachers and our parents to respect others Kaum Kaum. We did not need politicians to tell us what is right and what is wrong. We all had responsible parents and we "Cukup Ajar".
People, think back to those days in the 60's... Parent's and grand parents of children. It is your duty to educate as much as the schools. Unfortunately, as you have witnessed, our schools have failed in their mission. Some school teachers bring politics into the class room! This is viewed as the BIGGEST failure of the nation. Therefore, parents and grand parents, I called upon you to educate your children and their children the meaning of LIFE. The meaning of LIVE and LET LIVE.
I want to do something. I am not going to sit around about bitch about the situation and not do anything. I am going to join a political party to give me time. It will not be MCA or GERAKAN.
written by M.Miaw, August 31, 2009
Ha ha, 1Malaysia my foot!!! Bridge that connects Malaysians, my foot!!!
Regardless of the proportion of races in Section 23, having a Hindu temple there, with full support from the local community, could have been a championing example of racial harmony and acceptance. It could have made the neighbourhood a role model for the rest of the nation to envy, especially in resonance with Najib's "bridge that connects Malaysians" speech for Merdeka Day. Instead, the cow head protest and the narrow mindedness of these people have put them in the spotlight for the wrong reason. More importantly, it shows that Najib is talking nonsense about the bridge and walls and he has a long way to achieving it with the majority Malay-Muslims. Perhaps the bridge is only half built, from the non-Malays end.
written by AnakCarey, August 31, 2009
written by kick my foot, August 31, 2009
written by pad, August 31, 2009
UMNO has put up a lot of stupid drama that UMNO members themselves cannot see (example the tainted candidate; the Utusan racist commentary; obstruction of karpal Singh to eneter parliment etc etc) because UMNO culture is already like that. UMNO members cannot see the drama is stupid.
A person who lived and slept in a dirty toilet his whole life will not feel the smell.
SSY, maybe you are also living and sleeping in a dirty toilet and get use to such drama.
written by prachai, August 31, 2009
written by reudjoel, August 31, 2009
written by Idiot to the Core, August 31, 2009
Islam practice by UMNO cronies is so petty and has to be insulatede from H1NI,
I stay in Kelantan before although under PAS yet to see any such Islam there has any problems with Siamese od Chinese.
... so it is crystal clear that UMNO is instigating local reseidents of Sec 23 to create troubles and hatred among Malaysians.
UMNO intention is to "Make-Busy" so that they would blame and accused Pakatan Rakyat of not able to run and manage Selangor effeciently.
All these dirty cannot be from others beside Hantu Toyo who has no projects and side income to sustain his luxury Lifestyle.
Dear Datuk Khalid, just tahan until 2013 , Malaysian will still vote for Pakatan again in GE 13 to bury UMNO forever.
written by Mcdonald, September 01, 2009
if malaysia is truly a tolerant multiracial community, there shudnt be a problem with where the temple is built. if the protests succeed then their success is 2fold: 1 they move the temple 2 they expose their own religious bigotry.
Proximity has always been the true test of tolerance. you say you tolerate some one, but can you tolerate them as your nieghbour?
written by Hamba, September 01, 2009
written by namyal, September 01, 2009
written by Prema , September 01, 2009
written by ken, September 01, 2009
But when i look at the whole situation in section 23 shah alam, i don't think this is a religious issue as we seen many places that muslim, buddhist, christian and hindu worshipping places are share the same area, same road, even next to each other. this is what we call Malaysia, Truly Asia!
the whole thing @ section 23 shah alam is nothing but political gimmick to undermine the leadership of PR government. Did the Indians respond to these few fella? NO! Did other muslims people around the globe share the same idea like to so-called Malay Muslim that march to the state secretariat building with a cow head? NO! Who are they? Small time politician trying to show their master that they do their job serving their master well. They are nobody-politician trying to get some spotlight in the media. free publicity. they are just a caddie helping the AhmNo master carrying the clubs and balls hoping one day they also can be the AhmNo master playing the big game.
dear all reader, this is no longer a racial and religion issue. it wasn't. it is only a political gimmick by the AhmNo monkeys and donkeys.
written by wifee, September 03, 2009
What have you done to these people. It looks like they are sabotaging all your plans. all this has backfire and did severe damage to your party. It makes UMNO looks like a vallian, a racist, a coward trying to cover up all their misdeed. a penakut not even dare to admit to their mistake.




